I’ve never believed in grid-tied solar energy systems. The only economic sense grid tied solar systems make is for the windfall in incentives the rich get. It’s a scam on the American public and utility rate payers. The biggest economic solar perversion are the solar farms. The opportunity to at least spread the incentives among the people who are paying for them would have been to limit this uneconomical use of solar energy to homeowners and SMALL business’.

Sure I told myself, if they want to dump all this money into a hole I might as well get my share too and use it to promote true cost effective solar. The best system you can put in, is an economical one that stands on its own two feet and that means one that’s off the grid. It’s cost effective from day one when you compare it to the alternatives: noisy, smelly, short lived generators that are expensive to maintain and fuel.

I think were almost as far away from seeing solar generated electricity compete with utility power as we have been. The average cost of electricity in the U.S. is now about 10 cents a Kwh. Solar generated electricity has to be almost 10 times cheaper before it’s competitive.

It’s disgusting to me to see huge 200 and 400 megawatt solar farms going in at what, say ten times the cost of utility power just so a few wealthy people can get fat on an uneconomic system. And then to have a trade embargo sparked by one of the most expensive panel manufacturers in the country against a country that actually provide panels that are twice as competitive but still are miles from making economic sense (the Chinese). God forbid the cost of solar get lower than ten times the cost of utility power. If were going to throw money into a pit lets make sure we dump twice as much and lets make sure its our money and not theirs.

I’ve gone along with grid connected solar systems so long, I’ve started to almost believe in it. It’s a joke, a bad joke wasting billions of dollars of our money. I’ve been telling people this for the last 20 years ever since the Sacramento Municipal Utility District (SMUD) put in the first grid tied experimental subdivision. Experiment, what experiment were they talking about? And if it was an experiment to see if it would work someday in the distant future, why did everyone in the industry keep installing these systems? For the free money of course. And if it was a house off the grid, the same incentives didn’t apply. Of course not, because it cost $10,000 a mile to install power lines and that alone would make it an intellegient thing to do so why help them lets concentrate on the stupid application. Geez.

I’m sick of reading about companies putting out press releases about their new big multi-megawatt gird connected solar projects. It’s worse than the oil companies humongous profits, at least they earn their money instead of paying for it with 100% of our money. At least we get some gasoline for our cars, with solar you get nothing but a little extra clean air and not much when you consider the pitiful contribution solar makes to our energy supply.

I almost went over the edge but its time someone in the industry stood up and reminded everyone that this grid tied crap is almost a total waste of money.

Yeah solar energy and renewable energy are good for the environment but be practical were not trying to replace fossil fuel because it isn’t going to happen at this cost. Don’t try to pound round pegs into square holes if you love nature so much move to it and then guess what happens ? Then and only then will solar energy be the intelligent way to get your electricity, at least for the next 25 years, I think. If you want to make a statement for solar on your house buy the American Flag. It stands for everything grid tie systems don’t.

John Kimball

Owner

Sun Electronics

JOHN KIMBALL

305-710-9645

If you have not received your order please call us immediately for the status or your tracking number, invoice (if you didn’t get one) and shipping company’s name. Please have your sales order, invoice handy or we can find your order by your first name as well. If it hasn’t shipped there is probably a good reason for it, no shipping address, no phone number to call you, you never came too pick it up, etc., but I’m sure we can resolve it to your complete satisfaction. We have managed to do so far, I believe.

If you need anything else, more items, technical support, some additional customer service or just to talk about your system call me, John Kimball, the owner, now. I am here to solve problems. Do not hesitate to call me direct on my cell phone at any time. If you can’t get thru to your sales rep. call me, I can always get thru and I will make sure they speak with you immediately as I can conference them in all the time. If at all possible, I will be sure they call you back, within the next 15 min. My job is to make it happen.

You have all been incredibly patient but remember we just got it all in, 31,000 of the panels, on Dec. 23rd. Wait till you hear how we did it. The stories are amazing, I think. (Coming soon in the next blogs).

305-710-9645

John Kimball

Call John and/or send a resume. info@sunelec.com use subject = Hawaiian dream job.

We are also looking for people to work for us anywhere where there are great incentives either off grid or on gird or both.

Guess how many Mountain Gorillas are left? What if I told you are there are only16 male silverbacks? Many people would make a sad face and wouldn’t even question it. Frankly, most of us know only what we occasionally look at on the internet like on Wikipedia (working fine as usual). It also told me every species of Rhinoceros as well as Tigers are critically endangered . So are many species of Elephants and so on and so on. There are over 31,000 species of animals and plants on the list.

It’s going to stop. No ones letting this happen to our kids, it’s not going to be our legacy of our time.. Is there any reason why we shouldn’t try to stop this from happening? We can help by reducing our energy demand and by saving money we can send to organizations that are effective in helping preserve our environment. We obviously mean us too, there’s no reason to say we should not help human kind as well, solar goes both ways and for always.

Can you imagine if all the Mountain Guerillas in the wild died in our lifetime, or the Chimpanzees, right, I guess were next.

There are only 780 Mountain Gorillas left in the world. If were lucky, as of today, there are probably less than 40 fully adult, approx. 500 lb., Silver Back Mountain Guerillas left.

We should send some military vets over there with special pay to make sure not one more is killed and pay off the local government officials and farmers to get it together. Go there to see them if you can, its fun and it helps. And as far as long liners with their 7 mile nets that catch every bit of life in their path, take the air force and blow them out of the sea and then let the navy collect the nets so millions of others animals die for nothing.

I am going to a local restaurant that has a few types of shark fins on the menu, Great cut of the fin and let em die. Man that pisses me off, I have had enough, they make allot of money off us, its over until it goes.

John

New Subject:

Northern Arizona Wind and Sun is a great company in Flagstaff, a beautiful city surrounded by an incredible environment of pure nature. Just don’t believe everything the bloggers put on their website or any website including this one. The blog they have is totally separate and free from the company’s control. I called them after getting pissed off about unfair and inaccurate comments being posted, I am blocked, I can’t defend myself, and they told me they have no control also the owner is an old high school friend of mine, I discovered, so that changes everything. but don’t forget to not believe everything you read.

Most of what they do is great on the blog, the best, but when people just talk about my company I’d like to be able to respond, they clearly decided and said the Evergreen deal wasn’t a good deal , they were all B’s and they prices would be going down much more so don’t buy. Geez how much money do I have to lose, before you comment, why don’t you just call me everyone can call my cell 305-710-9645 or the 24 hour line.

We thing we have solved the phone capacity problems, lack of quick enough response, and we can improve more on customer service but how well could the comentators have handled 7 MW sold in 10 days that need to be shipped out to 690 differnt customers. We are 98% done, we received them from Belgium on Dec. 23rd. It’s Jan. 21st. damn it.

GEEEEEZE.

Give us a break.

John

We are looking for anyone with at least 3 years of college level education. Self motivated and who want to help reduce pollution and protect our environment.

Send resume to :

info@sunelec.com

Subject: Atten.: John Kimball

We are primarily interested in people who are located in states, territories and countries where renewable energy is most cost effective due to the cost of electricity, lack of power, power outages and/or have governmental, utility or other incentives for clean renewable energy development or energy efficiency. The further away you are from us the better. We are an International company, with engineers, to design your systems as well as licensed contractors to assist or perform complete installations.

Please read our Home page at www.sunelec.com and the About Us section before responding. We will provide you with the use of our full web site, a design catalog for learning the basics of renewable energy, sponsor you in shows in your area, provide you with advertising and travel support, if you can demonstrate you can be a productive sales person with the company.

We are also looking for people in our main offices and warehouse distribution stations throughout the world, including Hawaii, San Francisco, Phoenix, Miami, Dallas, Puerto Rico, Jamaica, India, Africa, Malaysia, Thailand, Shanghi, England, Italy, Bulgaria, and Germany.

We are also looking people for positions for Accounting, Marketing, Engineering, Installation and experienced internet sales and website management experience.

Please no calls just send your resume and a brief introductory letter.

I believe that renewable energy and energy efficiency development really do offer the opportunity for tens of thousands of new jobs.

Thank you.

John Kimball

President and CEO.

They convinced each other the panels were garbage and it was not a good deal, even a scam, and that prices would go down. Unfortunately for those who tried to tell others what they did not know, they went up,  they have just risen worldwide by 10 to 15¢/watt.

The modules 31,725 of them we sold were 56.76% Grade A and 43.24% Grade B . We provided complete detailed specifications and Grade of the modules.

By the way for those people who still have not figured it out correctly, Grade B Evergreens are identical to Grade A in power performance and output tolerance, they carry the same warranty as the A’s. Contrary to popular belief, Evergreen is still in business. Evergreen was purchased by the company that put their cells into modules when Evergreen moved their assembly to China.

If  anyone ever has a problem here with customer service they can always call me. I can usually be reached on my direct cell phone at 305-710-9645. or the office 305-536-9917 Ext. 307.

I discovered a string on their website blog all about Sun Electronics’ 78¢/panels, I could not believe what I read, after 10 pages of mostly mis-information about the Evergreen Auction and the Modules and how we informed everyone all along the way from beginning till end. The purchasing terms and location of the modules in Belgium was advertised all over our web site including my personal cell phone number. 305-710-9645 The shipping was updated regularly. We took photos of the loading process at it occurred and maintained constant updates on our website. Everything was completely upfront and and transparent.

And, even though we made smaller pallets of 20 for small purchasers we came through after complaints that we were discriminating against poor people who could not afford to buy 20 so we allowed people to by at any quantity, as I thought it was a good point. We wanted to be fair to all people who wanted to GO SOLAR.

Thank you !!!

jk

Selling 31,000 panels is fun, shipping them can make you go crazy.

We are doing everything we can to ship the final Evergreens. Those of you have waited patiently we praise you, those of you who have called over and over, we did everything tot fix our phone problem. Those who have been unable to get a return call from calls made we have solved that problem (at least 5 people had punched the do not disturb button when Pierre the service man and I checked the phones. I guarantee you that won’t happen again. The new girls at the front desk know only a little about solar but I think they are doing a good job, they get verbally abused allot because of the lateness of the Evergreen Shipments. They are just kids but they handle it very well.

Back to your money. We are not thieves or scammers, so for  those of you who are threatening us relax everything will be all right.

We are requesting some people to switch to either other Evergreen’s or Canadian Solar modules that we paid more for and holding the 78¢/watt price. Please keep calling us about your orders but maintain your patience. We should have them all shipped out by the middle of next week. If you have a pick up that you are just letting sit in our warehouse call us and come get it.

I have put tremendous pressure on my team and they are really handling that well. Not all but 98%. Leek in Phoenix is now all alone since Ron Lukart left, wish he had told me about the problems he hwas having instead of just walking out on us. Personally problems have taken their toll on ,my little company. I think its always the same at companies, Sales, Accounting, Production, Marketing and Shipping Departments can grow to dislike each other and the shit always flows downhill to the Shi[[in department. They always get everyone’s procrastination in one big pile and have to answer for everyone’s screw-up’s . “they were late in shipping it”.

I have a little advise for people going into a big business where you aren’t the boss, if your a salesperson never piss off the accounting department or the shipping department YOU MUST PAY if you do that. If your the boss don’t hire people because their your family or your friends, its a great way to lose them. Don’t set yourself up for two fer one problems, hiring two brothers, husband and wife or allowing employees” to get it on with each other” because then you when you have one problem you get two fer one.

If you live in a place like the City of Miami don’t burn the annual Christmas tree in your parking lot, people will think you crazy. Play football more often.

OK enough jokes. I humbly apologize for the delays we are trying so fucking hard you can’t imagine, Sam Vanderhoof you can rejoice, but we not giving up and were not afraid and we will keep doing our jobs no matter how hard it is. As I tell all of the people I have had the privilege of talking to, YOU PUSH AND I WILL PULL. My cell phone is 305-710-9645.

Don’t hesitate to call me, ANYTIME DAY OR NIGHT, you will get a return call, yesterday I just had visitors and to attend to the Evergreen War Room we have set up. Today may be tough again but every day I have some reliable intelligent person return all messages and missed calls. Hopefully you will be there when we call back, many of you aren’t always there, believe it or not.

I want to end this with some random thoughts:

1. We still need you as customers, watch the blog, good things are coming. More inexpensive laminates and modules have arrived and approximately 10 container loads have just arrived or are coming in. Including the un famous Sunelec refrigerator freezers. Don’t ask me why but people don’t buy them. I apologize to my friend at Sun Dancer in El Paso because we sell them at $575, about half the price everyone else does and they have proven to be damn near the same or just a smidgen less efficient and just as reliable. Same power, same size, same lifetime. My friend, Ed at www.ecobusinesslinks.com won’t put them on his great site because he thinks all Chinese products need to be discriminated against carefully. He just doesn’t know. He’s an amazing guy. You won’t believe how big his web site is its like the Great Mariana Trench 36,000 feet, who knows what’s in there.

2. We need you to buy our Enphase, SMA’s and Outback Radian’s all excellent, SMA for grid connect, Enphase for grid connect with shading problems, and Out Back’s Radian for off grid applications and back up power.

3. Why would someone buy a home solar electric system that produced no electricity when the power failed? At least a a few batteries, jeezzzz!

4. Read our blog “The Enphase craze is misguided”, Unless you have a shading problem you will have more problems by buying Enphase: the more parts you put on any system the mor parts can fail, For small systems, say less than 4KW it might be cost effective but a central unit after that is much better. People have just gone crazy over Enphase, one way to tell is that no one, even those with extreme shading problems,  is willing to consider ANY OTHER micro inverter, what about Enecsys for example or the others. It’s Enphase mania, something stinks here. Oh yeah they are good for monitoring your system because you can see every single module, huh? are you kidding me how anal can you get, either that or you don’t trust the bastards, right? or not right go ahead put me in my place its how we learn.

This Evergreen thing sure has kicked my ass, I have learned one hell of allot.

Call me, I’ve been here since 6 I always get up at 5 and work till 8 on you guys.

John

Thank you.

John

I can’t tell you how hard it is to ship 31,000 modules compared to wining an auction and selling them which are relatively simple, shipping them all is much harder, its very hard. By the way if anyone knows of local guy in Miami who knows phone systems for Gosh sake send him to me. Technology is haunted. No matter what I do people constantly complain about the phones. The good news is we’ve shipped almost all 31 freaking thousand of them. Most of the ones left are to be picked up. PLEASE COME GET THEM!

We have a few that did not have shipping addresses, small stuff like that.  We have a very accurate record of tracking numbers its just answering all the calls. We had to ship the credit card orders first and Alex, my warehouse foreman, tells me that 99% of those are gone. Now we are talking just the Evergreen Auction panels here, not Canadian or anything else. The BOS is shipped  from the old warehouse (we have two now, both huge).

We ant to get into the other lines of solar. I got so sick of everyone else publishing product availability on their website that I decided to list every freaking solar energy product and slamming at the top of the web site. I should d have made up some names and stuck them in there like Chinggasso Solar, or Solaria just for fun and made 3 times that size and put it on the blog as a joke but I blew it and went for it on my web site home page. Now I’m corrupt like all the other guys that don’t stock product but at least equal.

Look if you are still waiting for your panels and you prepaid please call us better yet call me without hesitation 305-710-9645.

By the way for those of you who willing to switch your orders to match available inventory we greatly appreciate that. There was a shortage of 225’s and 220’s, we switched those people to Canadian Solar Grade A’s. Everyone will be OK don’t worry. I take care of my customers.

Thank you.

John

Our goal was to to have every shipment on the road by today. We still have a few to ship but most have gone. If you have any questions about your shipment status please call Pierre at 305-801-3408.

If after that or if you have any other needs please call 305-710-9645 or 786-521-3049.

One thing we have discovered is shipping out 650 order comprised of 31,000 solar panels ASAP is a team effort. We’ve had our blow ups but everyone has either been welcomed back like the Prodigal son or re-assigned to the other warehouse or quit. No one was fired. We pulled off the Rodney King. ( started L.A. riots in the 90’s,  “can’t we all just get along”).

Thank you all who were willing to wait so long patiently. Thank you for the orders of the BOS, the only money we made. And thank you for the “job well done’s” we have received so far.

So if you need a pyramid built for free just call us. or if you are unsatisfied and want to call the BBB or credit card company and do a chargeback, give us one last chance and call me, John Kimball, at my cell phone 305-710-9645 AT LEAST 3 TIMES MORE. I WILL SOLVE WHATEVER PROBLEM YOU HAVE AND I WILL MAKE YOU HAPPY.

BEST REGARDS TO ALL OUR FANS AND FRIENDS.

JOHN